2024.08.13

[seanmcilroy29]

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2024.08.13 Agenda/Minutes

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Time 0800 (PT) / 1600 (BST) - See the time in your timezone

• Chair – Adrian Cockcroft
• Chair - Pindy Bhullar (UBS)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Agenda

• Approve agenda
• Approve previous Meeting Minutes

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Review

• Review the documentation files on GitHub and provide updates.
• https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/real-time-cloud/blob/Dev/Cloud_Region_Metadata_specification.md

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Latest Issues

• Alibaba Cloud claims K8s service meshes are resource hogs • The Register #57
• Need to add Watttime annual data for 2023 to the spreadsheet #56

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Discussions

• GCP Water Usage Effectiveness alignment #47
• AWS Water Usage Effectiveness alignment #48
• Updated GCP data for 2023 #51
• Updated AWS data for 2023 #52
• How should GPU energy use be estimated? #37

Ref Material

• GSF Real-Time Cloud Renewable Energy Percentage spreadsheet
• RTC Cloud Region Impact Framework Documentation
• miro dataflow in detail
  • Continue to review and approve the proposed Scope.

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Next Steps

• Is the data set ready for release

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AOB

• Topics added during the meeting

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Next Meeting

• 27 Aug

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[adrianco]

Attended

[seanmcilroy29]

Attended

[seanmcilroy29]

MoM - Real-Time Cloud

Water usage and sustainability in data centres.
Sean and Adrian are discussing Google's water usage and replenishment rate in data centres. Cooper explains that Google prefers not to publish water usage efficiency (WUE) as a standalone metric. Adrian raises concerns about the overhead of service meshes and suggests the need for benchmarking. They are updating the data set specifications with a new metadata table and vendor-specific information. Sean and Adrian review the data set spec, share observations, and make comments. They plan to circulate the spec to the standards working group for comments before finalizing it. Sean suggests raising a PR with observations and then bringing it to the working group for a full review. Adrian questions whether vendor-specific information can be included in an ISO standard, which could potentially lead to a subset definition.

Standardizing data center metrics for GSF.
Chris Adams recommends using the EU Data Center Code of Conduct as a starting point for standardization. Adrian suggests aligning common metrics with a subset that will be sent to ISO. Sean and Adrian talk about updates to the agenda of the GSF standards working group, with AWS and Accenture getting involved. Sean and Adrian also discuss European specifications, and Chris will be responsible for creating a related issue.

Action Items

• @sean Mcilroy - Submit RTC to SWG for review
• Add a comment on pursuing ISO standardization to the specification review
• @chris - Create issue linking to EU energy reporting templates
• Reach out to Google for official views on water usage metrics
• Chase down 2023 data from Microsoft

[mrchrisadams]

Hi @seanmcilroy29 , here's the issue with the extra information about the EU energy reporting regulations that might be relevant.

#59